Written by Mr. Mouseburger 4th Apr 2006
Kindly submitted by Eno
Sabretooth antagonizes Wolverine and the other X-Men as a member of Magneto's "Brotherhood of Mutants", battling them on several occasions. It all came to a head at Liberty Island where Magneto's plan was being carried out inside the Statue of Liberty's head.
Wolverine is pinned to the wall by Magneto's power over his adamantium metal skeleton, his hands stuck against his chest so that he will impale himself if he extends his claws. The others are pinned by sheets of metal also controlled by Magneto. Sabretooth comes down and basically is there to watch them, taking Cyclops’ visor so that he must keep his eyes closed, otherwise he will kill Jean with his optic blasts.
Eventually Wolverine has no other option but to extend his claws, putting them straight through his body and somehow releasing himself from Magneto's power. Sabretooth inspects his "corpse", but is then attacked once Wolverine heals his wound. The two end up on top of the statue's head, slugging it out with almost equal strength, abilities and with Sabretooth seemingly also having a healing factor to survive Wolverine's blows.
Wolverine is able to retrieve the dog-tags of his that Sabretooth took earlier in the film from him, but is then launched off the statue's head. He manages to hang on however, just out of Sabretooth's view, so the henchman returns inside the head and approaches the incapacitated Storm, saying "You still owe me a scream..." (A reference to a line he used in an earlier encounter with Storm).
Wolverine leaps back into the head, revealing that Sabretooth had "Dropped somethin'", Cyclops' visor. Jean used her telekinetic abilities to pull the visor to Cyclops' eyes, pointing it in an arc directed at Sabretooth as Cyclops opens his eyes. Sabretooth is hit with the incoming beam full on, sending him sailing through the wall of the statue's head and plummeting right through the boat that he and the other Brotherhood members had taken to the island.
His fall is controversial of course. No one knows if he is really dead or not, but knowing him and that the character wouldn't go out so easily, I'd say he survived that 300 foot fall.
I should emphasise the part about "300 ft. fall"...
Sabretooth's healing abilities rival Wolverine's. He can survive a 300' fall. The only way he would have died is if he was unconcious long enough to drown.
As evidence that he did not in fact die, I offer the X-Men 2 novelisation, which mentions Sabretooth (in passing) as the subject of a nationwide manhunt. Being that this novelisation was written by Chris Claremont, who wrote X-Men comics for over 15 years and created Sabretooth in the first place, I'm willing to trust his knowledge of just how tough Sabretooth is.
But we are not judging these films by novelizations, we are judging them by the films themselves. Sabretooth has never returned, so we can say he's dead. The X3 novelization mentions a character teleporting before she gets disintegrated, but in the film she disintegrates.
Possibly, but I would've also put not quite dead yet.
As X-Men fans and superhero fans alike, we all would like to see the characters have the similar traits to their comic book counterparts, thus the majority assume he is probably alive
But how do we know that he isn't dead? These are films, not the comic books. Different rules apply.
According to the official Novelization of the film X2: X-Men United and the comic book prequel tie-in, Sabretooth survived the incident, was the subject of an international manhunt, and had a brief confrontation with Logan to talk about their shared history.
And besides, anyone who knows Sabretooth from the comics knows that such a fall would do little more than make him mad.
Yeah, but like other villains who have been revealed to have survived in sequels or other material, he's still a goner as far as this movie is concerned.
And if you wanna talk about novelizations, the novelization of the first movie has Logan being pretty certain falling off of Lady Liberty would be a long enough drop to kill even him (or, best case scenario, injure him so badly he "won't be any good to anybody for a long time"). Not only does Sabretooth fall the same distance Logan dreaded falling in the book, he's also hit almost point-blank by Cyclops' heat vision and blasted through solid metal before falling several stories and crashing through a boat.
If Logan thought simply falling would potentially kill him, then I'd say that as far as this film is concerned, all bets are off for Sabretooth considering what he goes through before the actual fall.
Sabertooth has a similar healing factor as wolverine, he wouldn't die from something so weak.
plus being certain you are going to die.. and actually being able to die from it are two diffrent things. Wolverine and Sabertooth could fall out of a plane and not die >.> still not enough to actually kill Sabertooth.. hell it would take a lot before either of the two are close to death.
given both could take a beating from juggernaut and live this is a moot point.
given wolverine has decapitated him i the ultimates universe and that wasn't enough >.>
anyway from the 616 universe he's taken better shots than from cyclops, who'se power if you'll note more often than not is concussion based even if it's laser. You don't normally see him burning through things too often unless you count the ultimates universe.
Plus the 616 has taken on cylops before and the blasts didn't do much then either >.> if' it's a true translation of Sabertooth he's not dead >.> not by a long shot.. more than likely in the story just ticked off and not about to help Magneto again.
Kooshmeister Wrote:
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> Yeah, but like other villains who have been
> revealed to have survived in sequels or other
> material, he's still a goner as far as this movie
> is concerned.
>
> And if you wanna talk about novelizations, the
> novelization of the first movie has Logan being
> pretty certain falling off of Lady Liberty would
> be a long enough drop to kill even him (or, best
> case scenario, injure him so badly he "won't be
> any good to anybody for a long time"). Not only
> does Sabretooth fall the same distance Logan
> dreaded falling in the book, he's also hit almost
> point-blank by Cyclops' heat vision and blasted
> through solid metal before falling several stories
> and crashing through a boat.
>
> If Logan thought simply falling would potentially
> kill him, then I'd say that as far as this film is
> concerned, all bets are off for Sabretooth
> considering what he goes through before the actual
> fall.
Matt the issue is not "how can you prove he didn't die" but "How can you prove he did." It is my personal experience that unless character is shown dead, explicitly killed on screen, or said to be dead later in the film you can not ever say for certainty that that character is in fact dead. Case and Point: Layer Cake (they're making a sequel).
Anonymous User Wrote:
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> Matt the issue is not "how can you prove he didn't
> die" but "How can you prove he did." It is my
> personal experience that unless character is shown
> dead, explicitly killed on screen, or said to be
> dead later in the film you can not ever say for
> certainty that that character is in fact dead.
> Case and Point: Layer Cake (they're making a
> sequel).
Evidence to prove this is the fact that he did not appear in either of the sequels, where Mystique, who managed to live despite being stabbed, re-appeared.