UPDATE: The most number of categories per death can now be seen by clicking "Category" in the main death list. This will take you to this page.

Beat this Mouseburger: The death of Raoul (Dwight Yoakam) in Panic Room

OB



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2006 02:05PM by old bluffer.

And I've just realised this death also qualifies for Melee, bringing the total categories to an astonishing thirteen!

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See the top post in this thread for how to check the most number of categories per death.

OB

Well i have risen to the challenge and topped Raoul's listing with the impressive 16 categories which details Phil Connors death in Groundhog Day!!

Beat that OB

Pah, I call Cheat!

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I have been stabbed, shot, poisoned, frozen, hung, electrocuted and burned

We don't see many of these deaths at all, so it's a bit of a copout to count them .

Also, not-quite-dead doesn't count (but resurrection does), I keep trying to explain that on these forums and people continually don't seem to get it...
Mexican Standoff also doesn't apply as far as I can remember.

Anyway, that brings the total down below Panic Room, so I am happy for the time being . I still say it's a cheap way of getting 14 categories though - Raoul earns all of his fair and square in one scene!

By the way, I changed "ascorbic" to "acerbic" - if it wasn't a typo feel free to put it back in (but that's an unusual adjective - you might as well describe Andie Macdowell as a "citric" actress... )

nah, it is no more of a copout than finding someone has been killed offscreen. Only in Phil Connors case he has been killed offscreen several times.

I would say Mexican standoff does count as he is in a stand off situation with the police aiming for him and he is revving the car about to run them over.....

Also, there is an argument to be made for "not quite dead" too, as when he drives over the cliff Larry suggests he might still be alive, only for that hope to be extinguished with an explosion.

Yes, acerbic, not ascorbic - the whole world is a citric!!

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I would say Mexican standoff does count as he is in a stand off situation with the police aiming for him and he is revving the car about to run them over.....

I'd have to rewatch the scene, but my gut feeling is that it in no way qualifies. I don't remember the police being in any real danger at all (or of even being scared of their lives).

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Also, there is an argument to be made for "not quite dead" too, as when he drives over the cliff Larry suggests he might still be alive, only for that hope to be extinguished with an explosion.

I'm more certain about this one. In order to qualify (by your own standards in fact, when you suggested the category and drew the icon!) he would have had to stagger out of the car, then get shot several times, rise up again, have an eagle swoop down and peck his eyes out and only finally perish when the car exploded

Nice to see my first-ever contribution was controversial.

But how come there's no thread for Phil's death? I thought they were created automatically?

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ok, as a compromise i will add back in the mexican standoff, but leave out the "not quite dead" - which i admit was always a little bit tenuous - i added in for devilment!

Still, that make this the most categorised film on the site! well done Phil Connors.

Can you chaps think of/submit a death that has more!? - the challenge is on

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I would say Mexican standoff does count as he is in a stand off situation with the police aiming for him and he is revving the car about to run them over.....

I'd have to rewatch the scene, but my gut feeling is that it in no way qualifies. I don't remember the police being in any real danger at all (or of even being scared of their lives).

I don't think he was aiming for the police - it seemed that his intention was to drive over the cliff. How, I think it just qualifies.

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Also, there is an argument to be made for "not quite dead" too, as when he drives over the cliff Larry suggests he might still be alive, only for that hope to be extinguished with an explosion.

I'm more certain about this one. In order to qualify (by your own standards in fact, when you suggested the category and drew the icon!) he would have had to stagger out of the car, then get shot several times, rise up again, have an eagle swoop down and peck his eyes out and only finally perish when the car exploded

Well, that cliff was a very tall drop (made even longer by the slo-mo as the car falls). I say it counts.

Oh, and in a bit of trivia, in one shot under the car as it goes off the cliff, you can see there's no engine - it's completely empty.

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The Phil Connors/Groundhog Deaths categories seem like a stretch to me. These deaths don't really happen in the movie--they're just mentioned in it; also it's not clear that they're even deaths at all. Phil says ""I have been stabbed, shot, poisoned, frozen, hung, electrocuted and burned," but he doesn't say that these things have killed him. To the contrary, he say's he's discovered that he's an "immortal"--i.e., he *hasn't* died at all. So it seems a bit questionable, imho.

He died, at least for that day in that version of it. It's just that the next day, whether or not he was living prior to 12:00, resets itself, effectively bringing Phil back to life in the process.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2007 08:21PM by Kooshmeister.

Yeah, there's a scene of him dead in a morgue. So he is dead until the day starts again.

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Hmm. Guess I forgot about the morgue scene. Oh well.