Reincarnation

One of the administrators and I were having a debate over "Reincarnation" (For details, visit Alex J. Murphy board)

I believe that reincarnation is;

*When the memories and spirit are preserved in a new vessel (cinema belief contrary to theological belief)
*The old vessel is 50% to completely unusable

I believe that Mouseburger says the body must either be completely destroyed or the mind at least partially changed and put into a new vessel.

any comments?

For the purposes of the MDDB, reincarnation is where a character is brought back to life in a substantially different form or with a substantially different personality. From a writer's point of view, the character will be pretty much a new one, albeit with optional baggage from its previous life.

A good example is Jack Napier from Batman (why hasn't this been added yet?!). His new life as the Joker is definitely not resurrection, he is a markedly different entity.

I would say Murphy from Robocop is unusual, in that at the beginning of the film, he has been reincarnated (he has very few memories) but by the end his old persona is coming back. I would therefore have no problem with both reincarnation and resurrection being applied in his case. Note that I don't think his form as a "robocop" is substantially different enough to qualify as reincarnation alone though, it is the personality change that swings it for me.

Anakin Skywalker isn't a clear cut case, it all depends on how much you think he has slipped towards the dark side before becoming Vader. As I tend to try and separate the prequel trilogy from my beloved episodes 4,5 and 6 though, I would lean towards reincarnation. In my mind, the sulky, petulant Anakin is a completely different entity to Sith Lord Vader. At least I admit I'm biased though!
More seriously, Vader in the superior trilogy never shows an iota of emotion until he is dying, whereas Anakin was extremely hormonal. Even without bias I think they are different characters.

OB

The Joker has been added, but i have not got around to writing Napier's demise.

So the founders have a split decision on Murphy then?

Not at all, Mouse and I have agreed he deserves both reincarnation (the beginning of the film) and resurrection (towards the end).
I'll update the death shortly.

OB

You guys have already been over the 6th day, but I have a question over 2 movies, one of which I have recently ordered, and one of which it was a displeasure to lay eyes on.

Both movies, House and Scarecrow, feature a vengeful soul from beyond the grave occupying a new vessel, both reincarnated, that is where I need help, when writing these up, should I use the Lucy Westernra example (Live/Undead) or just combine the two?

p.s. Please, please, Mousebluffer, if you have the time and money, could you please write up House 3: The Horror Show and House IV: The Repossession? The latter 2 are only available in Europe (and in box-set with the first two!) and you are the only 2 Saints who can continue my legacy!

Sorry, but problem solved itself, I just went ahead and submitted Ben westernra style.