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Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Dr Elsa Schneider (Alison Doody)

Site Rating: 66%
(ratings: 7)
Writeup Rating: 72%
(ratings: 5)
Film: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
Deceased Character: Dr Elsa Schneider (Alison Doody)
Archetype: Ambivalent (Major)
Killed with: Falling

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Written by Mr. Mouseburger 1st Mar 2006

Kindly submitted by A Alcott

After Indy retrieves the Holy Grail from the chamber he walks back to use the power of the grail on his father, who was shot by Donovan (q.v.) earlier. The knight who has guarded the Grail for all these years gives Indy and Elsa a grave warning; the Grail cannot pass beyond the great seal at the entrance. This great seal is hard to miss, being a 10 foot diameter metal disc on the floor. However, once Indy has saved his father and set the grail down, Schneider decides to make a grab for it and head out of the temple, seeking fortune and fame.

The moment she crosses the great seal, a massive earthquake shakes the temple and causes a giant chasm to apppear in the floor. Elsa is not wearing the right shoes for this terrain, and so she ends up falling into the ravine, only to be saved at the last moment by Indy, who grabs her arm.

Elsa "seals" her fate, by ignoring the knights advice.

The Grail has also fallen into the ravine, and is tantalisingly close to Elsa, who is not prepared to let this prize go. She begins to stretch to reach the cup. All the while, Indy's grip on Elsa's hand is slipping, and he begs her to reach up with her other hand and let the Grail go.

Greed proves to be her undoing. As she makes one final effort to reach the Grail, Indy loses his grip on her hand and she falls, screaming into the bottomless pit.

whatever is at the bottom of that pit is smoking a really big cigar....

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Other Death Reviews for Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)

Colonel Vogel (Michael Byrne)
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Walter Donovan (Julian Glover)

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This review has 17 comments. Reply to the comments
Comment 1 by 'Mr. Briggs Inc.' (reply to this comment)
Falling would be appropriate for Elsa.
Comment 2 by 'Ocafi' (reply to this comment)
I always wanted to see what was making all of that smoke at the bottom of that pit. It was so still and perfectly formed...
Comment 3 by 'Mr Mouseburger' (reply to this comment)
sort of like the smoke in Superman's home in Superman 2, where General Zod, Non and Ursa are killed.
Comment 4 by 'KrazyCorn' (reply to this comment)
shouldn't she be Baddy (Minor)???
Comment 5 by 'Karl_Eichholtz_13' (reply to this comment)
no she should be dead in order to conclude the film so Baddy (Major).that is why the knight worned Indy and his father not to steal the Holy Grail from there.
Comment 6 by 'Kooshmeister' (reply to this comment)
Well, I guess since Raiders had three Major Baddies then I guess Last Crusade does as well: Donovan, Vogel, and Elsa.
Comment 7 by 'commanderblue' (reply to this comment)
What a crazy Nazi. Who knows how far down that pit when, anywhere from (if she is lucky) 15 feet to (unlucky) miles.
Comment 8 by 'Flashpenny' (reply to this comment)
Kooshmeister Wrote:
> Well, I guess since Raiders had three Major
> Baddies then I guess Last Crusade does as well:
> Donovan, Vogel, and Elsa.

I don't think Vogel qualified as a Major Baddy. Belloq was the main antagonist and Dietrich and Toht did seem like his co-conspirators (e.g. he had to run everything through with them before making any major decisions). Likewise here Donovan and Schneider were the main villains but Vogel seemed like he was taking orders from Donovan. Schneider and Donovan are the only main villains in this one.
Comment 9 by 'Kooshmeister' (reply to this comment)
If anything, Vogel seemingly took his orders from Elsa (even though Donovan went behind her back at one point), but I do agree his status as a main villain is a bit iffy. However he is the most physical of the three and is a recurring threat throughout the film so he floats between being a major and minor villain IMO.
Comment 10 by 'Flashpenny' (reply to this comment)
Hmmm... I think Vogel is a henchman. Calling him a main villain is like calling Oddjob a main villain. Sure he's more physical than his boss(es) and he does try to take matters into his own hands but overall he didn't really seem like he was one of the head honchos of the job. Particularly because he really only appeared in 3 scenes: 1. In the German fort where Donovan first appears (as a villain that is); 2. On the zeppelin; 3. The battle between him and Indy.

Overall I personally think that any bad guy that dies before the film's climax or before the main villains try to launch their plot is a henchman. That's just me though.
Comment 11 by 'Kooshmeister' (reply to this comment)
Well by that definition Toht isn't a main villain. He only has two scenes of any real importance. The rest of the time he's just sort of there and has little to no say in how Dietrich does things (Dietrich outranks him and his line "I have the perfect man for this kind of work!" implies Toht is his subordinate). As interesting as he looks and acts, after the "What shall we talk about?" scene he's just a total load and may as well have died as he did in the original script (going over the cliff in Gobler's car).

Don't get me wrong, I love Toht, but his importance is just often overstated, and if he gets to be listed as a Baddy (Major) despite essentially ceasing to serve a purpose midway through the story, then so should Vogel who had a purpose right up to his death.
Comment 12 by 'Flashpenny' (reply to this comment)
I know. That's why I wrote this: Overall I personally think that any bad guy that dies before the film's climax or before the main villains try to launch their plot is a henchman. That's just me though. End quote. :king:
Comment 13 by 'Kooshmeister' (reply to this comment)
All right, I'll grant you that a villain who dies before the climax is typically not a Baddy (Major) (Durant in Darkman is an exception to this), but this doesn't automatically make them a henchman.

A henchman (or goon, thug, lackey, minion, whatever) is someone who works for a villain, and plenty of minor villains who "die before the film's climax or before the main villains try to launch their plot" are not by definition henchmen, since many are their own bosses or are otherwise unaffiliated with the primary bad guy(s).
Comment 14 by 'Flashpenny' (reply to this comment)
Vogel was working for Schneider/Donovan so it's probably safe to say that he's a henchman.

The bad guys who work on their own are secondary villains, i.e. they're their own bosses but aren't the film's primary threat. I don't know what they qualify as though.
Comment 15 by 'CoinFlip' (reply to this comment)
If I had written this death, I would put 'Tempting Fate' as a category, seeing as she ignored Indy's warnings. Also, like Kooshmeister, I love Toht, and I love his death. falling of a cliff in Gobler's car would have been to quick for a goodvillan like him.
Comment 16 by 'Master Quaver' (reply to this comment)
I don't know why everyone seems to have such difficulty with archetypes. It's not hard! Vogel is obviously a henchman so he's obviously a Baddy (Minor), Donovan is obviously the main villain and Elsa's archetype is pretty self explanatory (she's a central character, higher than Vogel, but she isn't as wicked as Donovan and so hence the Ambivalent archetype). I'm sorry, but it annoys me how people always find archetypes so confusing, when it's so simple. Thank goodness it's Mr. Mouseburger and Old Bluffer filling in the archetypes and no one else!
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